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Polarbear
8th June 2007, 23:39
love them or hate them?
personally I could listen to them for hours!
Dynamo
8th June 2007, 23:42
I've only got one of their CDs, Abacab :rolleyes:
I like Phil Collins as a solo artist :cool:
Polarbear
8th June 2007, 23:44
One of their better ones Frank :)
The Professor
9th June 2007, 00:21
For me the Lamb or Foxtrot, but Gabrielda man, after he and Hacket left they were not Genesis.
Boxer
9th June 2007, 09:25
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
Same for me
eddie spaghetti
9th June 2007, 10:19
I knda like Genesis but thier more recent offerings have been pretty poor IMO.
cartridgemangler
9th June 2007, 10:51
I've never been a fan myself, but I acquired a couple in a job lot a while back.
I loved the videos for I can't dance and Jesus he knows me. (though zappa's 'heavenly bank account' from YAWYImade the satirical point much better, IMO)
thrunobulaxx
9th June 2007, 14:02
GJO wrote:
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
Same for me
Me to, but i do have a soft spot for Duke.
Polarbear
9th June 2007, 19:40
They did some good stuff later on but I prefre the pre- then there were three album.
Kmada
11th June 2007, 18:05
I just cannot understand the PG era cult following - complete hippy drivel IMO.
Wind & Wuthering & Trick of The Tail have got the best tunes in a 'your mum would like it' sort of way
Paul
15th June 2007, 15:26
thrunobulaxx wrote:
GJO wrote:
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
Same for me
Me to, but i do have a soft spot for Duke.
"Turn it on Again" the only Genesis track I'd ever listen to!
Paul
meninblack
15th June 2007, 16:21
Hmm. Early Genesis sucked like a Hoover.....
....then they went downhill. :P
IMO.:whistle:
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 21:33
meninblack wrote:
Hmm. Early Genesis sucked like a Hoover.....
....then they went downhill. :P
IMO.:whistle:
Is there anything you like MIB?
thrunobulaxx
15th June 2007, 21:50
He likes Marillion.;)
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 21:52
With or without Fish?
thrunobulaxx
15th June 2007, 22:00
Polarbear wrote:
With or without Fish?
With no doubt.
I always felt that Genesis and Marillian were pretty similar :haha:
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 22:27
Well didn't Fish once admit genesis were one of the greatest influences in his writing. I recall in the early days they were called the New genesis.
meninblack
15th June 2007, 22:38
Polarbear wrote:
meninblack wrote:
Hmm. Early Genesis sucked like a Hoover.....
....then they went downhill. :P
IMO.:whistle:
Is there anything you like MIB?
Plenty. Just no cliche-ed old dad-rock. :cool:
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 22:46
You calling me old? :P
meninblack
15th June 2007, 23:00
If the cap fits.... :P
thrunobulaxx
15th June 2007, 23:03
Polarbear wrote:
You calling me old? :P
Dont worry PB you aint the only one:rolleyes:
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 23:07
meninblack wrote:
If the cap fits.... :P
Ok, I admit it my musical tastes are very much in the seventies and eighties :snoopy:
notaclue
15th June 2007, 23:07
Hey fellas. I'm looking for a thread to discuss Mike & the Mechanics. I am assuming there must have been a techical error and the Mike & the Mechanics thread is temporarily unavailable.I'll check back later... :)
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 23:08
Why not start one :haha:
notaclue
15th June 2007, 23:10
Hmmm. Strange. I can't find the Wishbone Ash thread... :?
Polarbear
15th June 2007, 23:12
Weird that :dunno:
thrunobulaxx
15th June 2007, 23:54
notaclue wrote:
Hmmm. Strange. I can't find the Wishbone Ash thread... :?
Or the groundhogs, Family, Argent and the pink fairies.
Saw wishbone live many times at the cooks ferry inn:cool:
jazzmad
16th June 2007, 00:32
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
2 great albums - also like Selling England By The Pound :)
Polarbear
16th June 2007, 00:35
Good call jazzmad :D
thrunobulaxx
16th June 2007, 00:39
jazzmad wrote:
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
2 great albums - also like Selling England By The Pound :)
Trick of the tail, the lamb lies down , and trespass have their merits i reckon too.
jazzmad
16th June 2007, 00:52
thrunobulaxx wrote:
jazzmad wrote:
Boxer wrote:
Gabriel left: plot lost.
Hackett left: turned into a pop band.
Nursery Crime & Foxtrot for me!
2 great albums - also like Selling England By The Pound :)
Trick of the tail, the lamb lies down , and trespass have their merits i reckon too.
Quite like Trespass - not the classic line up of the group, but still has some good tunes on & is an under rated album imho. My favourite tune isThe Knife.
Not heard a lot of Trick of the tail or Lamb lies down though.
jazzmad
16th June 2007, 01:00
Polarbear wrote:
Good call jazzmad :D
Selling England is my favourite out of all their early albums - it's the only one i can really listen to right throughwithout skipping any tracks.
Boxer
16th June 2007, 18:49
notaclue wrote:
Hmmm. Strange. I can't find the Wishbone Ash thread... :?
Argus!!!!!!!! Excellent!!!!!!!! Only on about my third copy of it!
thrunobulaxx
16th June 2007, 18:56
Boxer wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Hmmm. Strange. I can't find the Wishbone Ash thread... :?
Argus!!!!!!!! Excellent!!!!!!!! Only on about my third copy of it!
I havn`t seen them for over 30 yrs are they still going ? and if so do they still have the two lead guitars ? the guitar "duels"used to be stunning live.
Argus has just reminded me of Argent another good band from that era.
I saw Genesis in 1984 at the Bham NEC. Charles (The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man) and Diana (How Dare I Be So Beautiful) were there in a box, with appointed guests the Eleventh Earl of Mar and Mad Man Moon. They enjoyed The Cinema Show although at one point became Entangled in the security rope. Di complained about the ticket prices, saying it was downright Robbery, Assault and Battery. At one point they argued briefly about how many clothes she was buying. Charles countered with 'I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) The Lady Lies". In The Glow of the Night it was rumoured she had an Invisible Touch and Charles was badly smitten and In Too Deep. He emerged with an Afterglow for all to see and in the dark Land of Confusion said Tonight, Tonight, Tonight, Follow You Follow Me or we'll never Get 'Em Out By Friday." After the Ordeal Charles said "I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."
I adore Genesis me.
thrunobulaxx
16th June 2007, 22:42
TIU wrote:
I saw Genesis in 1984 at the Bham NEC. Charles (The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man) and Diana (How Dare I Be So Beautiful) were there in a box, with appointed guests the Eleventh Earl of Mar and Mad Man Moon. They enjoyed The Cinema Show although at one point became Entangled in the security rope. Di complained about the ticket prices, saying it was downright Robbery, Assault and Battery. At one point they argued briefly about how many clothes she was buying. Charles countered with 'I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) The Lady Lies". In The Glow of the Night it was rumoured she had an Invisible Touch and Charles was badly smitten and In Too Deep. He emerged with an Afterglow for all to see and in the dark Land of Confusion said Tonight, Tonight, Tonight, Follow You Follow Me or we'll never Get 'Em Out By Friday." After the Ordeal Charles said "I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."
I adore Genesis me.
:rotfl:Except mad man moon was on the dark side then, he popped off in 78:(
Zygote23
16th June 2007, 23:36
Genesis be on the jelly box later this evening.
thrunobulaxx
16th June 2007, 23:47
Zygote23 wrote:
Genesis be on the jelly box later this evening.
What time what channel, please;)
Zygote23
16th June 2007, 23:56
Just started bbc4 invisible touch tour wembley
Zygote23
17th June 2007, 00:00
Lord Lament it looks a bit pants.............and I quite like Genesis. Phil's mullet is giving me the dry boke!
thrunobulaxx
17th June 2007, 00:03
TIU wrote:
Beat me to it.
I`ve had it anyway shmbo is watching slop.
Same here. Only the main TV has the cable channels and the mrs and daughter are watching a DVD. Besides, I'm not keen on their later concerts and they had lost their touch by the time of the Invisible Touch album. I prefer them before Hackett left.
Any Hackett fans here? I'm a Hackett nut.
thrunobulaxx
17th June 2007, 00:18
TIU wrote:
Same here. Only the main TV has the cable channels and the mrs and daughter are watching a DVD. Besides, I'm not keen on their later concerts and they had lost their touch by the time of the Invisible Touch album. I prefer them before Hackett left.
Any Hackett fans here? I'm a Hackett nut.
Right then i wont miss much, early stuff for me, i have hackets "flight of something or other" had forgotten it will dig it out.
thrunobulaxx
17th June 2007, 00:22
Zygote23 wrote:
Lord Lament it looks a bit pants.............and I quite like Genesis. Phil's mullet is giving me the dry boke!
Collins was ok in duke but after that i lost interest, other than a couple of tracks on abacab, started following gabriel then and the real world label, which turned out to be productive (Afro-celt etc)
Zygote23
17th June 2007, 00:40
If you like Afro Celt SS then you must look up Kila. They knock Afro Celt way into touch and are truely inspirational live.
HERE (http://kila.ie/)
thrunobulaxx
17th June 2007, 00:44
Zygote23 wrote:
If you like Afro Celt SS then you must look up Kila. They knock Afro Celt way into touch and are truely inspirational live.
HERE (http://kila.ie/)
Now they look interesting, mmmm, cheers.
Graeme
17th June 2007, 00:51
Kmada wrote:
I just cannot understand the PG era cult following - complete hippy drivel IMO.
Wind & Wuthering & Trick of The Tail have got the best tunes in a 'your mum would like it' sort of way
Not sure about the description of those tunes, but yes so absolutely, those two albums areI think, Genesis at their creative best.
The early albums do have some good moments but the word "drivel" was used earlier and do I think that is both appropriate and amusing. Maybe at the time it was done people got into it as much because it was pretty new and different. But musically, most of it was shite.
Gabriel is a talent and is an innovative writer/musician for sure but in Genesis terms it was after he left that the band moved on to produce really quality music, IMO.
That middle period, when Wind & Wuthering and Trick of the Tail came out, has been the era that stood the test of time. No, they are not as well known as some 80's and 90's popular hits, but in musical appreciation terms I believe they are the finest.
You can't really appreciate what they are like by Amazon sampling, but they are now cheap to buy ( and possibhly now improved sonically ) so if you are curious, just go and buy them.
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A Trick of the Tail was a turning point for the band. The writing improved and the emphasis was on the music instead of showcasing the band's cleverness. I still enjoy the Gabriel era albums though.
thrunobulaxx
17th June 2007, 10:24
Look what i got free in the sunday MAIL:666gr:can i mention that paper here ?
From the cover.
THE ELDERS: Global elders for a global village.
"As our world rapidly evolves to one global village, there is need for a group of well respected leaders who will use their wisdom, leadership and moral courage to help make our planet a more peaceful, healthy and equitable place to live.
Peter Gabriel is donating all the revenues from this cover mount to support the development of this idea."
I have all his work (i think) but this will be good for the car, it has "i grieve" one of my fav PG tracks.
P.s.
Well a few hours on i can say that for once the "givaway cd" is excellent, i read the independant but mrs thru has the mail for all the cd`s they give out ( take that etc).
It has some remixes that are very good, i`m nicking this one.
Anyone off to Hyde Park next Saturday,me and Mrs O are.
Graeme
17th June 2007, 20:29
TIU wrote:
A Trick of the Tail was a turning point for the band. The writing improved and the emphasis was on the music instead of showcasing the band's cleverness. I still enjoy the Gabriel era albums though.
Yet with that shift I would say they actually showed more cleverness. It just came out less wooden and pretentious; more fluid and musical. I think Tony Banks had a lot to do with that. I also liked the production on those albums in that period.
A cat talking about prog rock. What is the world coming to?:doh:
Those production values carried over into Seconds Out, which is my bestest live album of all time.
Polarbear
19th June 2007, 23:22
thrunobulaxx wrote:
Look what i got free in the sunday MAIL:666gr:can i mention that paper here ?
From the cover.
THE ELDERS: Global elders for a global village.
"As our world rapidly evolves to one global village, there is need for a group of well respected leaders who will use their wisdom, leadership and moral courage to help make our planet a more peaceful, healthy and equitable place to live.
Peter Gabriel is donating all the revenues from this cover mount to support the development of this idea."
I have all his work (i think) but this will be good for the car, it has "i grieve" one of my fav PG tracks.
P.s.
Well a few hours on i can say that for once the "givaway cd" is excellent, i read the independant but mrs thru has the mail for all the cd`s they give out ( take that etc).
It has some remixes that are very good, i`m nicking this one.
Now Peter Gabriel is excellent, hasn't done a bad album.
Boxer
23rd June 2007, 18:21
Polarbear wrote:
Now Peter Gabriel is excellent, hasn't done a bad album.
Just bought the SACDs of 3, So & Passsion: Fwaaaaaak me, but they sound awesome! May have to investigate more of that re-master/issue series. And cheaper direct from WOMAD than anywhere else I could find (or did I not look very hard?).
I am tempted by these remastered albums and have bought a few by Genesis and other artists. What I find though is as good as they undoubtedly are, they are still the same album, which invariably I have played to death. Because of this over familiarity I only play them once or twice and then crave something I haven't heard before.
Can you listen to the SACD layer Boxer or do you play the redbook layer? Have you bought the remastered vinyl as well?
Boxer
23rd June 2007, 19:23
The McIntosh is an SACD player, so "YES"!
SACD layer is an improvement on the red book layer (more "relaxed", less harsh in the treble & mid, but greater extension & not losing any impact); can only otherwise compare with my old copy of 3 from when it first came out...Never had any of these on CD.
Hi-FI Porn Issue 24 has an interview with PG, & features/comparisons of the different re-issues: Master Gregory preferred the heavy weight vinyl....but the SACD was generally preferred to CD.
potemkin
26th June 2007, 09:51
thrunobulaxx wrote:
Boxer wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Hmmm. Strange. I can't find the Wishbone Ash thread... :?
Argus!!!!!!!! Excellent!!!!!!!! Only on about my third copy of it!
I havn`t seen them for over 30 yrs are they still going ? and if so do they still have the two lead guitars ? the guitar "duels"used to be stunning live.
Argus has just reminded me of Argent another good band from that era.
Yes they are still going and yes they still have two lead guitarists. I saw them last month at The Ferry in Glasgow and they were excelllent.
Only original member left is Andy Powell (think Harry Hill's dad and you get the picture). The other guitarist is a Finnish bloke - Manny Mainanen, Bob Peake on bass. Didnt catch the drummer's name - I think he was new.
Played some of First album, a bit of Pilgrimage and a load of Argus with some newer stuff from Clan Destiny thrown in. They tour about once a year so you should be able to catch them.
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