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    Hi All,

    I am a complete Jazz newbie and I'd like to collect a few LP's to give me a taste for the genre.
    I have two Carol Kidd LP's that were given to me which I have enjoyed.
    Just don't know what to look for next.
    Definitely looking for stuff that is musical and makes your foot tap not really looking for that experimental stuff that's kind of all over the place.
    Hope that explains where I'm coming from
    Thanks

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Euan (ESK) is a bit of a Jazz fan. He should be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spider View Post
    Hi All,

    I am a complete Jazz newbie and I'd like to collect a few LP's to give me a taste for the genre.
    I have two Carol Kidd LP's that were given to me which I have enjoyed.
    Just don't know what to look for next.
    Definitely looking for stuff that is musical and makes your foot tap not really looking for that experimental stuff that's kind of all over the place.
    Hope that explains where I'm coming from
    Thanks

    Jazz is so diverse it's like saying I'm trying to get into cooking, where should I start. Stuff like Carol Kidd is a bit safe not what a true Jazzer wants, but on the other hand some Jazz is just unpleasant to listen to, technically it might be great, but musically it's lacking for most.

    Swing is often a good place to start, Buddy Rich, Count Basie, Art Pepper to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIU View Post
    good call.

    if you like that, try Weather Report : Heavy Weather

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    Hello , I would say go with ome early stuff to prehaps get your ear in , louis armstrong and yes any of the things the proff has suggested , prehaps also loom out for any of the uk big bandsfrom the danceband era , there were some very good english , uk bands and many recorded as well ,

    its a very big area but lots of smaller areas you can get in to,

    try also a pal of mine mike walker manchester guitarist , but its all a journey , I used to get record then find other recordings of the various players on the disk ,

    try julian arguilles also the loose tubes band , esrly recordings , but even mchael nyeman from 30
    years ago , .

    Good luck dont forget miles and al the other guys , wynton marsalis ,

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    jb , was formerly jazzbass .

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    Jesus did you see the price , its on crappy disk for about 4 beer vouchers and sounds fine , to me , ihave a good pile of dave brubeck , very enjoyable, playing , tunes , passion , etc , some great little tunes ,

    some of the weather report moved over to cds sound fooking terrible, real train crashes , the ones I have hear ,.


    some good mixed up boxed sets out there , stan getz , and buddy rich also gotta get a mention , chet baker , also great jazzer.

    Jb

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    I would start with stuff like Oscar Peterson for intimate quartet style jazz. If you like a bit of big band then Shorty Rogers is good fun and you really can't go wrong with Count Basie.


    Some Ellington can be a bit noodly but April in Spring is a belter.


    I heard a disc at the Profs a while back and it was a cracker. Gerry Mulligan Live at the Village Vanguard. If you don't like this then give up on jazz - in fact give up on music. Get it on Verve and it is a brilliant recording too - actually it is so good that it shows the full potential of what the CD could and should have been.


    I got into jazz by chance. A few years back Borders (when the existed) used to sell all the Verve stuff dead cheap. I don't havea large collection of jazz but just a few diverse types that I like to revisit.


    A tip for you. Ignore Eric Dolphy at all costs. He is unlistenable.


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    Yip that is pretty much Eric Dolphy!
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    I've bought the Dave Brubeck on vinyl and the Gerry mulligan at village vanguard
    I enjoyed them both
    So what's next to look out for
    I'll try to get a copy of heavy weather next I think
    More suggestions would be good

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    Arne Domnerius : Jazz at the Pawnshop
    Cannoball Aderly : Something Else
    Herbie Hancock : Headhunters
    Herbie Hancock : Fat Albert Rotunda
    Miles Davis : Kind of Blue
    Miles Davis : Tutu

    For more modern stuff anything by Esbjorn Svenson Trio (EST)
    Garaj Mahal : Blueberry Cave
    Bill Bufords Earthworks

    That should keep you going a while.

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    THe Hancocks are both superb but I eckon they are nearer funk than jazz. Still huighly recommended though.

    For something a bit more old school, try the Duke Ellington and Johnny Hodges albums; sSide to Side and Back to Back.

    Antonio Carlos Jobim and Stan Getz doing any of the Bossa Nova stuff is lovely.

    Jenny just popped up with a belter of a suggestion, Ronny Jordan. HE was a terrific guitarist that melded classic jazz with hip hop and R&B but tdon't let that put you off.

    My favourites of his are Quiet Revolution and Light to Dark.

    This always makes me smile.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0LHmALrkQ
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    Or this one;

    "I knew I had died and gone to chocolate heaven...."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3EtfOIZ25I
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    Ronnie Jordan is a good call, re Hancock, Fat Albert is more traditional.

    If you like Ronnie Jordan then perhaps Lonnie Liston Smith is a good call to, although heading more towards Hip Hop

    We've mentioned Buddy Rich, Big Swing Face is a good album to start with, as is any thing by Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers from late 1950's till Mid 60's

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    In fact while we are on Jordan's, what about Stanley Clark : School Days is a good place to start.
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    Fixed that for you.

    Stanley Jordan was the bloke with the weird hammer on/off guitar picking style.

    School Days is great as is the live I Wanna Play for You.
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    Oops! Yeah you're right, brain fog!

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    If you like Ronnie Jordan and the likes of Lonnie Liston Smith then buy the vinyl version of Jazzamatazz, forget the 2nd and 3rd. Awesome album, very upbeat and happy, but laid back, I've never tired of listening to it, I've had it on CD since it was launched in early 90's

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    Sky Arts 2 Friday 4pm Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers Live in '58 Art Blakey, Bobby Timmons, Jymie Merritt, Benny Golson, and Lee Morgan. I have just recorded and watched it tonight, it's on again this friday.

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