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    Default Spendor S8 --Bi-Wire or not??

    i recently purchased a mint pair of Spendor S8 loudspeakers for 400 and i was (at first) unsure as to whether i really liked them !! , but after a protracted listen i realised the strengths of them , superb mid-range and a nice smooth , yet detailed top end.

    i have a very good friend who has recently been experimenting with bi-amping and he suggested that i try bi-amping the Spendors , so i removed the links and connected my Beard amps to them (monoblocks to the bass/mid and stereo power amp to the tweeters , and guess what ?? , i love them even more now . i must admit that i was a little sceptical at first as to whether bi-amping would actually work , but i have to admit that it does , bass goes deeper , more information presented , and generally more enjoyment from the system (looks like i will be leaving the bi-wire links out)

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    Good stuff, nothing ventured nothing gained, glad it worked out.

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    Good result.

    What's unique about the word 'strengths'?

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    Is there a Spendor S8 or is it the S8e? 400 seems an unusually low price.

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    The S8 came first and offered a warm balance but NOT spongy or bland in my experience. One speaker that really liked Chord Odyssey speaker cables and assertive amps such as Naim or some MF designs. Bi-amping is an excellent option for these and it positively transforms the more complex S9 and S9e models.


    Not sure that 'buy-wiring' is an upgrade here, but bi-amping definitely is imo. I did it with Arcam 10/10P and the better cased FMJ version and also with rega (Mira mk1/Maia).


    The S8e offered a tauter bass, allowing the speaker to be used closer to back walls, but the sound was still smooth and well integrated. Current Spendor designs lift the upper mid a little in 'modern monitor' tradition, but in my opinion, lack the seamlessness of these 2000 era models.


    A fantastic buy for 400. I suppose they're regarded as 'large' speakers these days. the S6 and 6e is also a very fine speaker and responds similarly to cable and amp choices. I never got on with the S5 models though - too small and very sensitive to back wall positioning ime.
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    enjoyed your reply DSJR, i tried the b-wire option , but could not hear any improvement , but bi-amping was a revelation .the bass seems to go deeper and the treble detail is improved without it being 'bright' .
    the S8s were sold to me as a favour (needed a quick sale) as the condition they are in 9.9/10 and boxed could easily have realised a much higher price.
    as i said in my original thread , i was a little unsure of the sound of them at first , but the more i listened , the more i liked them , so i think they will be with me for a long time (i have another 3 pairs of floorstanders by the way !!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIU View Post
    Good result.

    What's unique about the word 'strengths'?
    Come on then Dave, you're a clever guy. (sorry for the brief OT)

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    glad you like the difference. BUT, it is often overlooked that when bi-amping, all the amplifiers have to have the same gain. Those people who use amplifiers with different gains often report no problems, and I do wonder about those peoples' hearing! However, if just bass/mid range and tweeter, as the tweeter has far less range and work to do, maybe its not so important.

    I have two stereo amplifiers (exactly the same) feeding floor standers, and this I have found beneficial.
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    when using the Beard amps to bi-amp , the amps are not of the same power output , but the sound from the Spendors is wonderful , so i'm afraid that that is all i care about , as long as i enjoy the music i don't care (as long as i don't 'blow' anything )

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    Speakers have an advisory maximum wattage input but as long as you don't have a wild all night party and play them very loud for hours you will be ok.

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    well, they say ignorance is bliss! Power output is different to gain. Gain is the voltage gain of the amplifier, not the power output. With pro monitors, with built-in power amplifiers, the power is actually different for each frequency band (or is often) but the gains have to be the same.

    Enjoy the music.
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    Ok rub it in ya cnut. I am happy in my ignorance.

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    Doesn't the crossover network split power as well as frequency?

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    It splits frequency and the music output of some styles puts all the power requirements in the midrange, with little needed from the tweeter. Only EM addicts like me (ok, Kraftwerk fans!) need plenty of power for low bass AND high treble too..


    Power requirements for speakers is a subject I can't even begin to explain, but it's well documented if you wanted to read up about it I think. Just to say that by and large, you can never have too much power, although using a pro monster with hundreds of clean Watts a side needs care if accidental damage to drivers isn't to occur - parties and so on.


    There's an interesting thread on the Yahoo IMF site regarding best amps for the TSL80, one of their larger transmission line speakers using KEF B139, B110 for bass and mids and Celestion HF1300 and HF2000 for highs. I suggested a high damping factor amp such as a still reliable vintage Crown D150A, which drove them so well in the mid 70's (we sold many of this combo). Others started talking about Quad 606's (slightly more powerful than the Crown) and then it went off into huge 500WPC jobs which certainly sounded good until a posters son? had a party and whacked up the volume, melting the crossovers!!!


    Back to topic here, the S8's (both versions) can sound self-effacing all too easily, hence my amp and cable recommendations above, after which they come alive and can really entertain in my experience. You CAN bi-amp safely with many Naim amps as long as there's a flat or Hi Cap in the middle, although they never promoted this fact.
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