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    Default Tannoy To Cease Production in Scotland.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-36175640

    Appears that they are moving to China with R&D moving to Manchester.

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    Businesses are all about profit. Stuff the loyal employee.

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    It is almost certainly the end of Tannoy. Why drag it out with the farce of Chinese manufacturing? Screw tne employees, screw the customers.

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    because it is easier to sell speakers called Tannoy than cheap Chinese ones that are shit. The name is the name of the game .

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    Love to see the "redundant" staff band together and apply their knowledge and skill to immediately bring out a line of improved versions of the existing Tannoy speakers, and market them as the legitimate successors, but only for those who don't want 3rd wprld degraded Tannoy's that appear forthcoming.

    Copyright laws tend to be so literal that merely changing cross over components for those of better quality is very likely all that's needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tube Nube View Post
    Love to see the "redundant" staff band together and apply their knowledge and skill to immediately bring out a line of improved versions of the existing Tannoy speakers, and market them as the legitimate successors, but only for those who don't want 3rd wprld degraded Tannoy's that appear forthcoming.

    Copyright laws tend to be so literal that merely changing cross over components for those of better quality is very likely all that's needed.
    Oddly enough, the survival of the big dual concentric a has little to do with performance and a lot to do with tradition and reputation. We buy the little boxes but the vast majority of the big boxes go precisely where they are now going to be built. Once the Chinese market took off the Japanese and Korean markets would have little or no say in the survival of the big DC's and they were the drivers that kept production in Scotland going for so long. The model used to be make in China, sell elsewhere but now the biggest market is China so it makes sense to move there. It is just a shame about the workers.

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    Good point Henry, but a lot of the cachet for Tannoy was because they were British, having them made in China will put many off. From Tannoy's POV I bet they barely broke even on the prestige.

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    But a lot of Tannoy speakers are made outside Scotland already. In fact quite possibly everything [I]except[I] the Prestige range! The MX range was the first.

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    the west have had stuff made out in china for years due to cheap labour costs,now china has become one of the dominant economic countries they now have the money to buy up all the western companies that in the past they just made things for,they also have the technology as we gave it to them,it is the western countries fault not the Chinese,I can't believe companies like apple have not seen what is happening and stopped using china to produce there products,it won't be long until the Chinese own them and most of all the western tech companies,apple maybe a huge company but compared to the Chinese govt(who finance all these takeovers indirectly) they are tiny!

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    It's western greed, the companies greed for higher profit margins and the consumers greed for ever decreasing prices, it's a short sighted view and is coming home to roost

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    For us or China? They need to be able to sell what they make. To do so they have to enable their own population to buy what they make. That process of creating a consumer class out of a peasant class is way more challenging for the political status quo there than any challenge we face here. We have lost some history and tradition and, sadly, a few thousand jobs across industry but they are linking their entire financial and therefore political future to world markets. That will be very challenging for an authoritarian Communist regime.

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    Good point Henry, I had a similar thought after posting, if the west goes under China will have no consumers to buy their products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable Monkey View Post
    For us or China? They need to be able to sell what they make. To do so they have to enable their own population to buy what they make. That process of creating a consumer class out of a peasant class is way more challenging for the political status quo there than any challenge we face here. We have lost some history and tradition and, sadly, a few thousand jobs across industry but they are linking their entire financial and therefore political future to world markets. That will be very challenging for an authoritarian Communist regime.
    If you think the Chinese are still running as a communist state apart from in name you are very mistaken,Our company deals with a lot of Chinese and they make the US companies seem left wing!the only way in which the govt behaves in a communist manner is to go ahead with whatever they want and never mind what impact it has on the population,all the Chinese guys I deal with who live in the UK love it here as they say at least the Govt is answerable to the people(oh and the food is safe to eat!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable Monkey View Post
    For us or China? They need to be able to sell what they make..
    so you think the Chinese will work in a different way to how the Japanese did,they got in a state where they kept making stuff even with no markets to sell to,you think UK finances are in dire straights,take a look at Japans they had over 2 decades of deflation!

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    If they don't buy it, they'll steal it. They are scoundrels.

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    Always occurred to me that us Brits are the least likely to buy or own goods and happiest to buy a foreigners product. Think cars in the past and consider how many Fiats you see in Italy, Renaults in France and VW in Germany. We're hardly loyal, instead choosing what suits our circumstances best. We show little brand loyalty to Made in Britain plc so can't be too surprised when things like this sadly happen.

    Even fellow EU countries have little loyalty beyond their own national borders, for example Italy imports only 1.3% of their entire imports from the UK making the whole EU project a farce too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillRae View Post
    Always occurred to me that us Brits are the least likely to buy or own goods and happiest to buy a foreigners product. Think cars in the past and consider how many Fiats you see in Italy, Renaults in France and VW in Germany. We're hardly loyal, instead choosing what suits our circumstances best. We show little brand loyalty to Made in Britain plc so can't be too surprised when things like this sadly happen.

    Even fellow EU countries have little loyalty beyond their own national borders, for example Italy imports only 1.3% of their entire imports from the UK making the whole EU project a farce too!
    with the car analogy,the cars we did make in the uk were pretty poor and outdated,problem is the uk makers expected the uk buyer to buy them just because they were made here,its like motor bikes,we were making old kick start bikes that dripped oil everywhere that you wer lucky to keep running or even get to start in the rain,the japs were making dead reliable machines that didn't drip oil and were cheaper,what were we making when Kawasaki brought over the original Z900? the bonnevile,no real comparison is there!

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    It isn't dastardly foreigners that have done UK companies in. There was a fair amount of very ruthless infighting with other UK brands refusing some the oxygen of trade, others winning acclaim but then being unable to step up. And some who simply were not good enough. Right now it is about who can do what cheapest and UK workers aren't cheap and the new living wage rules makes them even less so. And let's face it. We as a nation don't buy the stuff any more with AV taking up any slack in the average home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable Monkey View Post
    It isn't dastardly foreigners that have done UK companies in. There was a fair amount of very ruthless infighting with other UK brands refusing some the oxygen of trade, others winning acclaim but then being unable to step up. And some who simply were not good enough. Right now it is about who can do what cheapest and UK workers aren't cheap and the new living wage rules makes them even less so. And let's face it. We as a nation don't buy the stuff any more with AV taking up any slack in the average home.
    the main issue, in the past anyway,was we didn't invest enough to keep a lot of our products at the cutting edge,that and the way the thatcher govts seemed to basically wanted a service based country( I include banking in that),they didn't seem to want any manufacturing in the uk,we are paying the price for that and importing our energy still,if you have a country that seems to not want engineers nobody will want to study towards a career in it

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